Hosted by CEED Senior Clinician, Alex Hillman, Dr Josie Geller explores utilising a harm reduction approach when working with individuals who have not benefited from recovery focused treatment. She discusses how the harm reduction framework incorporates motivational work and the non-negotiable philosophy, and how treatment goals differ with this approach. Josie also speaks about different clinician styles and what helps clinicians to survive when working within in a harm reduction framework.